From: Todd L. Sherman / KB4MHH
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 1:28 PM
To: Larry Kraus
Subject: Troopers writing tickets for RDs mounted on windshields...
Officer Kraus,
Can you forward this to your Division Commander for me? Thanks.
My name is Todd Sherman. I run the website called 'Mobile Scanner and
RADAR-Detector Laws In The United States.'
Over the past 6 months, I've received complaints from people who are advising
me that they are being ticketed from Troop C troopers for having radar
detectors mounted upon their windshields, and actually being issued pretty
hefty fines for that infraction.
I'm suspicious of this and was thinking of possibly taking on investigation of
this myself to find out just what exactly is going on with this particular
Division. That I have so far heard, you seem to be the ONLY Division so far
actually making use of this windshield law to ticket people for radar detector
use - something the Florida Senate has told people was supposed to be LEGAL to
use. I am also thinking of taking this into the Press to see if they might be
able to help in the investigation of what is going on down there. I'm wary of
your intentions and this is apparently unprecedented. It's only occurring down
there in your Troop C area. Why? What's going on?
Let me nutshell it for you...
The Florida Senate recently voted DOWN a proposed bill by ex-Alachua County
Sheriff Steve Oelrich to make the use of RDs illegal. This in effect sets
something called "precedence" from a pretty powerful source -the Florida Senate
itself - that radar detector use in the State of Florida is in fact NOT
illegal. Not illegal means it's LEGAL. I don't know how YOU interpret this,
but I proffer that you are not a Judge and it is not within your right or
purview to act in the manner and duty of a Judge where a law such as the
windshield law is so vague and obviously so in conflict with the Florida
Senate. (You'll be interested in knowing too that Oelrich in fact came from a
county which made heavy use of something called the 'Safety Warning System' -
which employs devices mounted upon emergency vehicles specifically DESIGNED to
make today's radar detectors go off and scroll little text message warnings so
as to give people heads up and to be able to take appropriate cautionary
action. I suspect some places inside your own Troop C area ALSO make use of
those devices. They are inescapably and increasingly popular, nowadays. It
would not look good if your area did in fact make use of such a system and then
your own troopers were in fact ticketing and financially accosting people for
making use of them. I am researching that right now, too.)
At any rate, this can be carried farther to say that if the Senate has approved
the use of RDs in Florida, then that in fact IS considered a "state approval"
of the use of radar detectors. I'm sorry. I do not see any other interpretation
of that from someplace so high as the Florida SENATE. That's pretty
inarguable, and places your entire Division into a fairly dangerous and
precarious position of suspicion. You COULD be sued for harassing the public
unnecessarily.
It is also my interpretation that the main purpose of the Florida windshield
law seems to largely be to prevent unauthorized use of tinting and sun
shielding and the prevention of unauthorized additional screening methods. I do
not in that law see ANY specific mention BANNING of the use of RADAR DETECTORS.
It's too vague for you to touch in it's current wording. I suggest it's just
best leaving it alone as it leaves you too open to misinterpretation and the
apparent unintentional harassment of innocent people.
Another Florida law, regulating the use of GPS devices, specifically allows the
use of a very bulky device. This law would seem to be in conflict with the
windshield law because the GPS device itself DOES provide for the "obstruction
of the windshield" that I'm sure your officers are holding to. The GPS devices
are often larger and take up MUCH more area on the windshield, all said and
done, than the RDs do. And yet, the GPS law ALLOWS for their use. Hmm.
Are your officers attempting to make use of some sort of a "holy grail"
loophole that they think they see in the windshield law to unnecessarily harass
and stalk Florida citizens who are otherwise making wholly legitimate use of
RADAR-Detectors that the Florida Senate specifically showed no interest in
making illegal?
I just wanted to be absolutely sure we were all on the same level, here.
Would you answer these questions specifically for me?...
What is the intention of the FHP Troop C Division with respect to radar
detector usage considering the Florida Senate's vote on radar-detector usage?
Are your officers actually acting ALONE and on their OWN interpreting
the windshield law; or are you specifically INSTRUCTING the officers under
your command to ticket people under this law?
Who is the authority that approved/instructed this action be taken?
Are you aware that no other police agency across the entire state of
Florida is taking this action?
How many times have your officers used this law to ticket people since
you began using it?
How much has this accosted people in terms of fines so far since you
began using the windshield law? (I am thinking of seeking to have your
Division reimburse those people for the fines and to rescind those tickets.)
These are reasonable questions.
I would argue that your Division is acting on it's own, making it's OWN
interpretation of an obviously vague law, taking advantage of a loophole. I
would argue that you are using the color of law to harass and intimidate, using
a vague law to deliberately and intentionally and unnecessarily accost innocent
citizens and ticketing and fining them for using a device that the Florida
Senate has actually VOTED to allow them to freely and peaceably be able to USE
within the state. I would argue that the windshield law is in conflict with the
Senate's own set precedence. I would argue that you have unfairly fined people.
I would argue that you have unfairly placed unnecessary infractions into the
permanent record of innocent people who in fact broke no such law. I would
argue that those people ticketed and fined need to be reimbursed, and that
their illicitly imposed infractions be removed, and that the officers who
imposed the infractions upon those people be punished - unless offered some
sign that they were NOT acting on their own, illicitly.
...What is going ON down there?
Offering you friendly chance to explain, here.
Thanks,
Todd Sherman
Mobile Scanner & RADAR-Detector Laws In The United States
http://www.afn.org/~afn09444/scanlaws
UPDATE - RESPONSE (05/05/2010):
From: Kraus, Larry
Sent: Wednesday, May 05, 2010 2:36 PM
To: Todd L. Sherman
Subject: RE: Troopers writing tickets for RDs mounted on windshields...
Mr. Sherman,
I forwarded your request to my Captain in Tallahassee, please allow us
some time to look into this matter and we will answer all your
questions.
Thank you
Sergeant Larry Kraus
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